CONDITIONAL REGISTRATION.

HISTORIC REGISTRATION                                  HISTORIC REGISTRATION COMMITTEE                          The committee consists of the following well know members; Ian Denny, Arthur Ruediger, Mike Greenwood, Trevor and Helen Praite, Neil Stagg, David Fairbrother, Roger Polkinghorne, Alan Pearson. The committee was formed in 2003 in response to an upgrading of the Historic registration scheme. The committee is responsible for; The inspection and approval of suitable vehicles for Historic Registration and the issue of approval certificates. ( a code of practice must be abided by ) The issue of new log books. Replacement of expired log books. The endorsement of registration papers. The keeping of records of each and every transaction under taken by them.  Each member of the committee is authorised by the Registrar of Motor Vehicles for this purpose. There is a wealth of knowledge and experience amongst the members in MG matters   We also assist the Club Secretary by taking annual subscriptions in January and February. This work is usually undertaken by the wives of the committee members, namely De Denny, Lyn Stagg and Wendy Pearson, on a volunteer basis. In January and February each year, every current log book must be updated to show the member is financial. With over 600 current log books, this means opening the clubrooms every Saturday ( except long weekends ) in those months. Subscriptions can also be paid at the clubrooms on these days. For the rest of the year, the clubrooms are generally open on the 2nd and 4th Saturdays of each month, between 10.00am and 12.00 noon for the above services, but there are occasional changes, so please check the CLUB CALENDAR in the magazine. Ian Denny.   POSTAL SERVICE   Subscription renewal, logbook updating or renewal and endorsement of registration papers can all be carried out by posting  them to the Club post office box ( P.O. BOX  200, BROMPTON  SA  5007 ). Please enclose a stamped, self addressed envelope for the return of your papers. Check the renewal date on the front cover of your log book. If a new book is required, please enclose  $5.00 for the cost of the book. Remember to enclose your tax invoice, together with payment, if paying your subs              HISTORIC REGISTRATION                  YOUR RESPONSIBILITY As members of the MG Car Club with cars registered under the Historic Registration  Scheme, we have certain obligations that we must comply with each year. You must remain a financial member of the Club at all times. Your log book/s must be  updated in January- February every year by the Historic Registration Committee to verify that you are a financial member.   Always present your registration paper/s when you have your log book/s updated. Your registration paper, after renewal and your log book must be presented to the Historic Registration Committee so that the registration paper can be endorsed and the registration expiry date  entered in the log book. The Club rooms are open twice every month for this purpose. Every time your car is driven on the road you must first enter and sign the details of your trip in your log book, remembering that after mid-night is another day and another entry. If you are not abiding by the above simple rules for the use of the system, you are driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle. Heavy penalties apply if caught If you sell your car, you must present your log book to the H.R.C. for cancellation. THE LOG BOOK DOES NOT GO WITH THE CAR TO THE NEW OWNER. Vehicle verification checks, issue of log books and endorsement of registration papers are regularly carried out at the Clubrooms on the 2nd and 4th Saturday of the month, between the hours of 10.00am and 12.00 noon. If you are unable to attend the Clubrooms, you can post your log book/s and registration paper/s to the Club at P.O.BOX  200,BROMPTON, SA, 5007. Please enclose a stamped, self addressed envelope for the return of your papers. If your book is due for replacement by the date on the front cover, please enclose $5.00 to cover the cost of the book                                       JOINT OWNERSHIP If a vehicle is registered in joint names, then both parties must be financial members of the Car Club. All enquiries regarding Historic Registration are to be directed to, Ian Denny, Ph, 8298 1436 or Arthur Ruediger, Ph, 8353 1870   FHMC NEWS From Ian Denny  Delegates Meeting 14th of February, 2009.         Two recent deaths. John Fotheringham a past President of the RAA always had a strong interest in the FHMC and was responsible for the RAA sponsorship of both Bay to Birdwood’s and other motoring endeavors. Eddy Trotter was a past FHMC and Veteran and Vintage Chev Club President.  The FHMC received a copy of a letter sent by a Whyalla Club to the DTEI about the high cost of retaining numeric number plates that were originally on vehicles. This subject has been discussed before and two points come out of the letter One. Do not let your club write letters like this to the DTEI as they take time to answer and the time taken is written up as a cost against the HVRS. If a club writes a letter it thinks that the DTEI should answer, do not send it to DTEI, send it to the FHMC. The FHMC may already know the answer (as it does in this case) and will tell you and if the FHMC does not know the answer, the FHMC is the right group to put the question. Two. There have been several approaches to both DTEI and the Ombudsman about the high cost of some plates and their historic significance to the vehicle that the plates were issued to. Fact. Number plates generate income for DTEI. The number plates are available if you are prepared to pay the asking price. Nasty in some ways but we live in a commercial world and the DTEI / the Government like making money This one is a doozy, most of us have broken this “law”. Along with the bit about “not tampering with or winding back speedo’s” is a companion law which says that you can not take a speedo out of a dashboard and or put it back or replace it  with another speedo without the approval of the Office of Consumer and Business Affairs. There is a form to fill out and it may take three or four days to get the approval you need to fix the blown globe in your speedo if you need to remove the speedo to replace the globe. It was noted that another “hot rod” had been registered on the HVRS. It took some time for the vehicle to be found as it rarely appeared with a number plate and probably never with a rego sticker. Action has been taken by the DTEI and the club responsible. There was a reminder to all clubs to ensure that all club registrars physically inspect all vehicles that they pass for the HVRS. Do not give out signed but not filled in MR334’s It was pointed out from the floor that in “all groups of motoring registration or motoring endeavour” there is a small core group of people who will flaunt the rules and all of us should be vigilant within our own clubs I had been told that some Government Department has employed a N.Z. consultant to prepare some form of document with the aim of removing 10 to 15 year old vehicles from SA roads in an effort to reduce the road toll. I raised that statement at the meeting with the following questions, Has any one else heard this rumor?  Steve Henderson noted that he knew that DTEI was concerned about the age of the “SA motor vehicle fleet” and were looking at the situation. There is a perceived problem that some older vehicles are poorly maintained through lack of knowledge or lack of money for repairs. The vehicles are in the main fully registered, the people can not afford maintenance or repairs but they are still using the vehicles. My question would be “what proportion of these vehicles actually cause problems on the road (as opposed to driver caused problems) compared to the cost of any preventative measures that could be taken”. Would the measures be cost effective or simply just an added cost? I also asked that the FHMC monitor the situation, find out if there is any “terms of reference”, see if the FHMC can make a submission on the matter and if anything becomes known and  keep the RAA advised. The FHMC has noted my concerns. (selected items taken from notes supplied to delegates by Gordon Cowley) Ian Denny, Delegate to the FHMC.     All enquiries about Historic Registration should be directed to Ian Denny, Ph 82981436 or Arthur Ruediger, Ph 83531870.

( commonly known as Historic Registration )

Provided by the Government of South Australia through the registration and Licensing section of Transport S.A.

Endorsed and administered by the Federation of Historic Motoring Club S.A. Inc and implemented by the various motoring clubs affiliated with the F.H.M.C.

A Code of Practice guides all parties in its implementation.

What is Conditional Registration of a motor vehicle?

Historic registration provides the owner of a qualifying vehicle with lower registration costs. The vehicle can only be used 90 times in any 12 month period of registration. The owner must be and remain a financial member of a recognised car club while the vehicle is on historic registration. An entry must be completed in a log book before the commencement of a journey. If a driver is detected without having filled in his/her log book on a journey, the driver will be deemed to be driving an uninsured and unregistered vehicle. The result will be a heavy fine and de-registration of the vehicle.

The vehicle must be inspected by an authorised officer of the club and, if the vehicle complies with the Code of Practice, the officer will issue an MR334 form. The owner then presents the form to the Registration and Licensing office of Transport S.A. to obtain his/her historic registration.

The owner then returns to the club with the new registration papers to obtain his/her log book. The historic registered vehicle must not be driven on the road until that log book is issued and endorsed by an authorised officer of the club.

The following are extracts from the ;

Code of Practice.

Conditional Registration is available to owners of historic vehicles that are more than 30 years old and prescribed left hand drive vehicles that were manufactured before 1 January 1974 and have not been altered from the Original Equipment Manufactures (OEM) specifications apart from variations allowed in this Code.

Historic vehicles and prescribed left hand drive vehicles may be accepted for conditional registration provided the appropriate approval is completed and signed by an authorised person of the club of which the applicant is a financial member.

3.4 Owners of historic vehicles and prescribed left hand drive vehicles are responsible for:

•  Maintaining financial membership of a club

•  Cancelling the conditional registration of the vehicle when a change of ownership of historic vehicles or prescribed left hand drive vehicles occurs or when the owner of the vehicle is no longer a financial member of a club. The log book issued to that vehicle must be returned to the issuing club for cancellation

•  Presenting vehicle/s for inspection when required and having the club's authorised person validate their log book/s and current registration papers

•  Ensuring their conditionally registered vehicle is not driven on a road or road related area unless the club's authorised person has completed the necessary details in the log book

•  Ensuring their conditionally registered vehicle is not driven on a road or road related area more than 90 days each period of 12 months in the period of registration

•  Ensuring their conditionally registered vehicle is not driven on a road or road related area if it does not comply with this Code of Practice

•  Ensuring their conditionally registered vehicle is not driven on a road or road related area unless an entry is made in the log book ( the log book entry must be completed before the commencement of the journey ). A journey may consist of one or more separate trips on that day. A journey that commences at 10.00. am on a particular day and finishes at 9.00.am the next day constitutes two calendar days. Consequently, two separate days use must be recorded in the log book

•  Maintaining the vehicle to the same standard, specification and configuration as it was presented for initial inspection to the club's authorised person ( fair wear and tear is accepted)

6.1 Eligibility for conditional registration

To be eligible for conditional registration the owner of the vehicle must be a financial member of a club and the vehicle must meet the criteria defined in the definitions and in Part 7 of this code.

The eligibility of a vehicle for conditional registration is based on the maintenance of the ‘historic integrity' of the subject vehicle. Variations that detract from the vehicles ‘historic integrity' may make the vehicle ineligible for conditional registration as a historic vehicle or prescribed left-hand drive vehicle.

For a vehicle to possess ‘historic integrity', it must be the genuine vehicle, either in its original condition or has been restored to an acceptable level. Replicas and reproductions of historic vehicles or prescribed or left-hand drive vehicles are not eligible.

Where a vehicle is a ‘special' manufactured by the OEM, it is the responsibility of the owner to provide evidence of the OEM specification and verification that the specification applies to the subject vehicle

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Joint ownership

If a vehicle is registered in joint names, then both parties must be financial members of the club.

All enquiries regarding Historic Registration can be directed to:

Ian Denny, Ph (08) 82981436, or Arthur Ruediger, Ph (08) 83531870.

NOTE:

Logbook Updates,
Registration Paper Endorsements,
Vehicle Inspections,

are conducted at the club rooms on the SECOND and FOURTH Saturdays of the Month, between 10:00am and 12:00Noon.
Remember it's your responsibility to have your rego up to date.

The following information has been provided by the Federation of Historic Motoring Clubs SA following the collation of details from South Australian Club members:-